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First of all I would like to thank this former member of the Greeks for taking the time he spent for answering the following questions.
| Q - How did you make contact and become a member of the Greeks? |
| A - Before becoming a BJ player, I was a Wall Street securities lawyer. I worked in the New York and Paris offices of an international law firm based in New York City. After returning to New York from a 2-year stint in that firm's Paris office, I was approached by a former colleague of mine from the legal profession. She and I went out to dinner one night in Manhattan, after I had not seen for her for a few years. She told me over dinner that she had been playing BJ for a year with another ex-lawyer from a Wall Street securities firm. She explained card-counting to me and told me that she and her BJ partner wanted to build a BJ Team. They needed a big player and thought I was well suited to the role. At first I thought she had lost her mind, but she had been so highly regarded at my law firm that I decided to give her the benefit of the doubt. I therefore attended a practice at her apartment. After practicing a few weeks, I decided that BJ was worth a try. My new team-mates then took me down to AC on a July 4 weekend. After running around the AC casinos betting table max and getting comped up the wazoo, I fell in love with BJ. Six months later I withdrew from the legal profession to become a full-time member of the new team. |
| Q - When did you first get involved with the Greeks card counting team? |
| A - 1997 |
| Q - Did you follow a strict set of guidelines, was there paperwork and or a manual distributed? |
A - Yes and yes. You should know the following. All team-members were contractually required to maintain confidentiality.
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| Q - What kind of bankroll did you have access too, how much per session? |
| A - I believe my former teammates would regard the size of the team's bankroll as sensitive information. I can only say that our bankroll was large. |
| Q - Where you mostly involved in team play? |
| A - I am not sure what you mean by this question. When you say "team play", are you asking me if I spent most of my time being part of plays where there was a big player running around taking call-ins, or are you asking me if I spent most of my time playing from a team bankroll? The answers to those questions are no and yes. |
Q - Describe the first time you where caught and labeled a card counter. Did you have a "Back room" experience with any casino, if so describe the experience? |
A - The first time I was caught and labeled a card-counter, I did not know it at the time. The first time I got caught and I knew I got caught was when I tried to enter a shoe as a big player and got shuffled up on. At that moment, I was losing $30K and was running around the casino in an Armani suit, which the casino had comped to me. I remember thinking two things when the pit-boss yelled "shuffle": (1) how the hell am I going to win all this damned money back; and (2) are they going to demand that I surrender the suit? I proceeded to get the money back at the casino next door while wearing the Armani suit.
I was back-roomed on multiple occasions and in multiple casinos. There were also many attempted backroomings that I avoided by telling casino security to fuck off (or words to that effect).
Perhaps my worst back-rooming was at a Station casino. I was wearing a long black wig and calling another big player into my shoe. I took a washroom break and, when I emerged from the john, I was blocked by two gorillas in security outfits. When I refused to follow them and tried to walk by them in a totally non-threatening manner, they tackled me, cuffed my hands behind my back and then propelled me into the back room by pulling my wrists toward the ceiling and forcing me to bend over. Once in the back room, they attached me to a table and left me there to stew. A half hour later, the security shift manager walked in holding a file. He sat on a chair a few feet away from me and opened the file. In it was a large color photo of an individual who looked nothing like me. The shift manager said to me that he had trespassed me the day before and that the photo in front of him was his proof. I told him that that was a bald-faced lie, that the person in the photo looked nothing like me, that I had not been in the casino for over two years, and that I had never been trespassed from that casino in my entire life, all of which was true. I then told him that I was going to file a complaint against him and the casino with the Nevada gaming commission. The cops soon arrived, ascertained that the casino had no reason to detain me, and instructed the shift manager to release me. I advised the cops that I wished to press charges but they refused to do that for me. One of the cops then suggested that I go to the nearest precinct. Since I had tried that once before and had been jerked around for hours by the Las Vegas police, I decided to carry out my threat to the shift manager and I filed a complaint the next morning with the Nevada gaming commission. After the commission "investigated" the affair, the commission advised me that the tapes of the incident had been destroyed before they could retrieve them, but that
they had decided to take no action against the casino or its staff. The reason they gave me was the following. According to the casino, cheaters wearing wigs had been operating in the area days before my visit, and because I was wearing a wig, the casino was entitled to detain me for the purpose of ascertaining whether I was a cheater. When an "investigator" from the commission explained this all to me, I asked him "does the Constitution of the United States apply in the State of Nevada?" He was unable to answer my question. |
| Q - Where was the central location located while you where a member? |
| A - My former team-mates would consider this sensitive information and I decline to answer. |
| Q - How often did the team meet for meetings, was there testing and certain standards of knowledge that members had to uphold? |
| A - We met often, there was insanely rigorous testing (especially in the later years), and all members were required to maintain the highest standards of excellence. Having said that, we knew how to have a hell of a good time. But no partying was permitted during the course of a bank. |
| Q - How many casinos nationwide and worldwide did you frequent? |
| A - I played in numerous European casinos, in South America, throughout the Caribbean and in virtually every casino in Canada and the United States. Probably the only casinos on the North American continent that I have not played in are casinos with puny max bets (i.e. under $500, but I have played in a lot of those ones too.) I never made it to Asia or Australia as a BJ player. |
| Q - Do you continue to use your skills today? |
A - I have not played a hand of BJ since late 2003, but I believe that I use my skills as a BJ player every day in my new career. After being paid by the hour as a securities lawyer, I returned to the practice of law to become a plaintiffs' class actions lawyer. I now work on a contingency fee basis, and I routinely place very large wagers against massive and hostile business organizations. In many ways, I view my experiences as a BJ player as a preparation for what I am doing now, which is a job that I love.
The key to profiting from BJ is to ensure that you have options available to you when your notoriety inevitably catches up with you. If you do not have those options, then the casinos will win in the end. |
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